Guest: Rock Lambros, CEO and founder of RockCyber [@RockCyberLLC]

On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/rocklambros/

On Twitter | https://twitter.com/rocklambros

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Hosts:

Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]

On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin

Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast

On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli

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Episode Notes

In a recent On Location episode recorded at Black Hat USA 2024, Sean Martin and Rock Lambros explore the prevailing topics and critical insights from the event's AI Summit. Sitting in the media room, not on the bustling show floor, the paid dissect the impact of artificial intelligence (AI) on cybersecurity, shedding light on its multifaceted implications.

Rock Lambros, Founder and CEO of RockCyber, shares his observations about the predominance of AI in every corner of the conference. He notes how AI's presence is ubiquitous, even saturating advertisements at the airport. Lambros provides an overview of the AI Summit, highlighting the diversity of sessions ranging from high-level talks to vendor pitches. While some were mere product promotions, others provided substantial insights and valuable statistics, which Lambros is keen to share on platforms like LinkedIn.

The discussion progresses to the remark by Nvidia's CEO, Bartley Richardson, suggesting that cyber is fundamentally a data problem, and AI could be the solution. Lambros concurs with this in part but emphasizes the necessity of maintaining human oversight in the process. Martin and Lambros reflect on the potential of AI to augment cybersecurity tasks, particularly for tier one analysts. There is a focus on leveraging AI to expedite responses to threats, potentially reducing the reaction time, which currently lags significantly behind the speed of AI-driven attacks.

Lambros presents a balanced perspective, warning against the risk of reducing entry-level jobs in cybersecurity due to AI advancements, advocating instead for upskilling these professionals to handle more complex roles. The conversation touches on governance and risk management, with Lambros stressing the importance of integrating AI governance into existing frameworks without rendering AI oversight an exclusive domain for data scientists alone. He highlights the EU AI Act and Colorado AI Act as critical regulatory frameworks that emphasize this need.

Lambros also brings attention to DARPA's open-source resources aimed at securing AI, encouraging practitioners to utilize these tools. Towards the end, a poignant observation from Robert Flores, former CISO of the CIA, underscores the difficulty governments face in keeping up with AI's rapid evolution. Lambros reflects on the mixed audience at the summit, a blend of technical practitioners and policy leaders, all grasping the significant impact and challenges AI brings to the field.

The episode underscores the crucial balance between embracing technological advancements and maintaining human oversight and governance within cybersecurity. The insights shared by Rock Lambros and Sean Martin offer a nuanced perspective on the current state of AI in the field, emphasizing a collaborative approach to integrating these innovations responsibly.