Like internal family systems you have the exile which is the tender part of you that got wounded and then you have a protector that builds up to make sure you don't get hurt again. "Our protectors sometimes seem like they're against us like in that way like you're a freak you won't be able to do this," she says. 'You can first talk to the protector and be curious like what or sorry it has a child a father,' he adds."It's so interesting that my trauma is both that I want to be known like I have to be heard and seen, almost in a separate room."