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The Man Who Blew Up The World

This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

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Are We Heading for Turbulent Times?

Shash: We don't know in 10 or 20 years where will Saudi Arabia be? A good chunk of the population wants nuclear weapons. In Japan, we saw Shinzo Abe talk about how Japan should entertain a nuclear sharing option. I think the answer to that is conventional deterrence, which can still do a lot," says Shash.

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