DO 93 - LM Sacasas w/ Ashley Colby
Doomer Optimism
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Duma Optimism
Illich: I think it's really important to highlight that when you push back on the sort of like totalizing, globalized, uni culture of everything and people accuse you of being a Luddite. And then another thing that just keeps coming up is this these two other polls which are that come up a lot in Duma Optimism because people are capable or leaning into our agency. Illich: Maybe we need to begin rebuilding at this extremely simple level that won't give us the immediate outcomes we desire but will give us a foundation to build on and maybe a hundred years.
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