Autopilot - What's the Devil in the Detail?

Jan Schmitz: I wanted to ask about another experience you had in your past. Sometime after, I guess the DARPA challenge when you were back working at BASH, you had a hand in writing the SAE levels of automation. What was that like and how are they working so far? That's a good question. We thought that is a very linear, easy to understand, nomenclature. turns out that the devil is in the detail.