I want to turn a little bit to this idea of work as a beautiful thing, because it was reflecting before this conversation. My father passed not too long ago and one of the things I said at his eulogy is that what I got from him was a really good work ethic. There's something about being in a kitchen and being with other people and the fun that we had there. Now, eventually it became unsatisfying, and I'm glad I don't still do it.

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