I think there's a limit to how many people are interested in finance and growing beyond that is really challenging. When you get into interviews then you you tap into people who are interested in the finance of creators or just extraordinary people in general doesn't have to be creators. I feel like sometimes because I'm always a Japanese ship like I'm so on it all the time 24-7 where I think I had that unrealistic expectation for Jack to use Like we always got to be working all the time You know always pick up the phone call. Yeah permission Asking for no No, we have a good balance Okay, that's what I that’s what I think and Jack has some great

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