I don't think I don't think we know at this point. As you said before we started recording could be fraud it could be a competence. Some of that could be that he's just addicted to that. Or in some sense he's preparing to plead insanity like, you know, who would be crazy enough to give a media tour if people are suspecting you are fraud? It's really the same thing.

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