We either have to use less or we could create a lot more hydrogen. People are going to choose the hydrogen route even if it's not in your head sort of naive way. Or we could do it smarter. We shouldn't be looking at fuel substitution. That's just simple minded. Instead what we should be saying is we can't burn fossils to do this thing anymore, move people around, keep our houses warm and heat something up in industry. How else do we do it without making greenhouse gas emissions? That's the question we should be asking.

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