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Catherine Opie

Design Matters with Debbie Millman

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The Outcast and Trama

The artist says he came out as gay 25 years after his first s and m magazine was published. He also joined a woman's s and m society called the outcast, cofounded by academic gale reuben. "There was an enormous amount of healing that this community brought to me in relationship to trama"

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