"I think if Bitcoin stays where it's at with the small community it has and it's just used as it is now–store value, ETFs, shiny rock under the bed, gold 2.0–I'll consider it a colossal failure. So we need to build out these circular economies and make sure Bitcoin gets used for commerce everywhere."

In this episode of the Bitcoin Podcast, Walker America talks with Evan Kaloudis, founder of Zeus, to discuss Bitcoin adoption, improving UX, orange pilling struggles, merchant adoption, self-custody, the Lightning Network, eCash (Cashu), CBDCs, resisting state overreach, and the future of Bitcoin development. They also discuss how Evan kept developing Zeus in the USA, even when other companies were leaving the country and cutting off access for Americans.

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