From a QSBS standpoint I believe that it starts when the shares are actually issued but there may be some tacking available so definitely check with tax folks on that. A lot more up and tighter and less errors hopefully or any cantankerousness that can occur.QSBS qualified small business it becomes an issue right you have to hold these shares from five years from the pricing of the share is that going to make sure when you require the sharesYeah so it's a convertible note until it converts you actually don't have the shares or you do or debatable.

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