JKL: I think my point was it's a lot easier to be friends and play poker together than it is to do a job. And this has become really a job, so you can have really good friends and then try and start a company or do a job together and you can hate each other. JKL: It doesn't mean that you guys stop being friends or that we should stop doing the work. He says Adam Newman raised $350 million from Andreessen Horowitz for his new company called Flow. Kogan: How could anyone back him? The guy was so awful the first time around. But a lot of founders have a failed low profile first experience and come back

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