I would do anything in the world to talk about anything but the Mac pro are you convinced of my desktop now oh my god I am more convinced than ever that I do not want a desktop because I don't want to have to worry about all this bull. can we talk about something a little more entertaining please what else is on the list well there's a lot of things and most of them are boring so who button shapes that sounds interesting? John take your pick we're not doing software development methodologies now we've only gotYeah we don't have time for that so I will excuse me Marco and I havetime for that yeah well now because this show should not be that long but yes