How to Be a Good Pastor

"I felt an incredible amount of gratitude for, you know, the churches about relationship more than any other time if you're saying goodbye," he says. "My friendship with him, which was quite close before is 10 times closer than it was." He adds: "He's the person that I called. And he's last week, I was going through something and I didn't quite know what to do ... so I think there's a deep, very real connection between we both"