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Kathie Lee Gifford

Joy, a Podcast. Hosted by Craig Ferguson

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The Relationship Between Religion and Relationship

In Jesus' day when he walked on the earth, which he did for 33 years, there were no big trees. There were just sort of glorified bushes back then. Those trees, the trees that you go to Israel and you see now have been planted since it became a nation in 1948. Nothing's changed because human nature doesn't. That's why we need the Holy Spirit to live within us.

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