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The Motivation Has to Proceed the Learning
In order for me to get them to a destination of health or helping them with their disease process, it has to be with them recognizing what the issue is. And that's more so in the mental health space of things, less so in the physical. I think when you go to other countries, like Singapore for example, there is just a completely different attitude. They regularly top the international tables by the way in terms of achievement in mathematics. You can't only have carrot. Because you need to turn orange. Famously.