If you can keep doing your mvp and learning and making progress, if you can do that indefinitely and own a hundred % of your company, never take money from investors. A launch am looks for pegasuses, which is companies that can skip around a financing or two. The more i created in the world, the more i went from being a nobody to people following me. And once i created silican ally reporter, and it was just a 16 page photo copy, my phone, my lunch schedule filled up. I had made something in the world. And i got addicted to it. There are people with ideas, and people talk, and then there are people who create. So