In pinocchio, for example, we don't have any problem with a animated depiction of a wooden puppet rescue his father from the belly of a fire dreathing breathing whale at the bottom of the ocean. Somehow that makes sense. And it touches on these deep narrative themes that are really instinctual. They're high order abstractions and they touch us deeply emotionally and motivationally. We can fall into them immediately. A great artist has that operating in their imagination. And then can can put a new spin on that. That the thing, especially about the more mythologically oriented narratives, there has to be something new about it as well as the thing that's common and constant. So
Join Michael Shermer and Jordan Peterson (bestselling author of 12 Rules for Life) for this extraordinary conversation based on Peterson’s new book Beyond Order. After working for decades as a clinical psychologist and a professor at Harvard and the University of Toronto, Peterson has become one of the world’s most influential public intellectuals. His YouTube videos and podcasts have gathered a worldwide audience of hundreds of millions, and his global book tour reached more than 250,000 people in major cities across the globe. What is it that gives Peterson’s message such mass appeal?