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‘Barbie’ + ‘Oppenheimer,’ a.k.a. Barbenheimer, Is Upon Us!

The Big Picture

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The Importance of Femininity in the Matrix

The Matrix is a huge influence on this movie. It's no surprise that Greta Gerwig's interpretation speaks more to me than Nolan's interpretation of it. And also people can call me a hypocrite. But, you know, I think I wanted to have a space of nine minutes to communicate frankly about the very silly Transformers movie. Yeah. If you'd like to have an uninterrupted nine minutes of Barbie time, I'm happy to grant it.

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Speaker 1
And
Speaker 2
I mean, you make it sound like everyone is just like fucking, you know, like on the roof of the dream house. I just mean like what they're saying to each
Speaker 1
other, what the character and like the way that the characters are kind of deciding what they want their fate to be, which like, I mean, you mentioned the Truman show. Yeah. Like the Matrix is a huge influence on this movie. Totally. Huge. It's a huge influence on this movie. Movies that seem like they're for kids, you know, that seem like they're like adventures or action movies or that these candy colored things, but that under the surface are made by people at crossroads of their lives, at middle age and thinking about who they are and who they want to be. And there's like the kind of like backward looking read on the Wachowskis and who the Wachowskis were and what they were making when they made the Matrix and who they are now is incredibly interesting and relevant to the way that story is understood. And reading Greta Gerwig saying like, I'm a middle aged woman in America, interested in the ideas of femininity, but also wanting success. And like we joke around with like, can a man to have it all in this podcast? Right. No, I mean, this is a can you have it all?
Speaker 2
It is. It's, I mean, it's definitely in that lineage, which is really beautiful. It also going back to Oppenheimer is ultimately just two very different interpretations of what it means to just to be a person trying to figure out what to do with your particular talent. It's no surprise that Gerwig's interpretation speaks more to me than Nolan's interpretation of it. But that I mean, that is like a funny, amazing part of these two things being paired. Yeah. Listen, like I said, I have no distance from this. And that's okay. And also people can call me a hypocrite. But, you know, I was thinking about how you just spent a lot of time talking about the Transformers movie. And in fact, you wouldn't even let me on a podcast because you were like, no, I just need to do Transformers by myself. But, you know,
Speaker 1
I don't think that's exactly what I said, but I'll work. They can be getting frequently misquoted on this podcast. I think I wanted to have a space of nine minutes to communicate frankly about the very silly Transformers movie. Yeah. If you'd like to have an uninterrupted nine minutes of Barbie time, I'm happy to grant it.

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