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Natalie Brunell is one of the leading voices in bitcoin, widely respected for helping millions understand the asset and the broader macro landscape. In this conversation, we break down why Bitcoin’s price has stalled, how it stacks up against gold, the biggest misconceptions critics still get wrong, stablecoins, Wall Street’s growing role, and whether Satoshi’s identity even matters. Natalie also shares insights from her book Bitcoin Is For Everyone and why she believes bitcoin’s long-term outlook remains as strong as ever.

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 – Intro

• 2:09 – Inflation & the U.S. affordability crisis

• 5:12 – Bitcoin vs. Gold

• 6:27 – Wall Street’s role in bitcoin and nation-state adoption

• 10:59 – Bitcoin as payments vs. store of value

• 12:56 – Stablecoins relationship to bitcoin

• 16:52 – Censorship, de-banking & financial freedom

• 21:16 – Banks & bitcoin reserves

• 22:42 – Media coverage of bitcoin and how to fix broken incentives

• 27:36 – “Bitcoin Is For Everyone”

• 33:20 – How to measure inflation

• 35:47 – The money printer mountain

• 37:26 – Who is Satoshi? Does it matter?

• 38:45 – Selling the book and closing remarks