Chris Wilson began to develop the “Master Plan” for his future while serving a life sentence
REAL ONES with Jon Bernthal
The Importance of Going Back Into the Figurative Cave
"It's different and special when you can sit down with someone, at least for me, with someone who knows like what it feels like," he says. "You don't know what it's like to go to sleep hungry every night and got to carry a gun." He adds: "I think it's going back into the figurative cave... We got to pay it forward"
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