i was already in my forties at that point, and i had an opportunity to host this little radio show on a fledgling internet radio network. And so that's when design matters was born. The first show aired february fourth, two thousand five. I don't even know if the word podcast was in use at the time, wer it was just barely in use. There was definitely no podcast section on my tunes. It was almost like i was an indian musician up though i was in a sail i t over even the other podcasts that existed.I not even shwingapedia has now of the pod cabin that that were founded in two thousand and four and two thousand

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