Speaker 1
The conference is going to be June 3rd through 5th in San Francisco. And if you go to our brand new enterprise experience community, which you'll see from the Rosenfeld Media main page, we just launched it about two and a half hours ago, I believe it was. It's actually been a community that's been around, we've been having informal monthly video conference calls for months, but now you can join it through our website. It can be a lot easier. And please call. It's been great. We're testing out some of these ideas on these calls. It's part of the community. There's a newsletter we're launching, keep up with these ideas, and it all wraps up together in the annual conference, which again, Rich is helping with, it's going to be June 3rd 5th. I have one more question for you, Rich. But before I ask it, I'm just going to mention to the listeners who I'm sure want to learn more about your work and maybe re-product bytes, is another reef familiar with it. My website is mironoff.com and I-R-O-N-O-V.com. And again, Rich will be at Enterprise Experience 2019 and we'll get to meet him there. I hope you'll join us there. Rich, I'd like to ask my guests if there's a really interesting person or book or a smother, really valuable piece of information they should know about. What you got for me? Sure, I'm just finishing up what I think is a great, great book from Melissa Perry called Escaping the Build Trap and what I'm really enjoying about it, because she's quite a smart thinker and writer about product management and product strategy, is it helps us pull ourselves out of the execution phase of sort of sprint-level writing stories, which is only useful if you're writing useful stories that solve real problems, and to think about the strategic trappings of how we set goals and how we design experiments and how we understand customers in the broad sense. I think it's a really good piece of work. So that's, I would say it's on my bedside table, it's actually on my desk table. That's great. And I always get her last name, Ms. Spell. It's Melissa. It's P-E-R-R-I, not P-E-R-R-Y. Thank you. I would have said A, so that's good. Thanks for that. I'll have to hit up Melissa for a future podcast. In the meantime, I wanted to thank Rich Merrenoff, longtime blogger on software product management, coach of VP's of product management, and someone who's tripping a lot to making enterprise experience 2019 great conference. Thanks for joining us today. Oh, my pleasure. Thank