Mike Downey: Total depravity is not teaching that God made a bunch of junk or that because we sin God is only junk to deal with now. He says recovering a doctrine of sin leads to the recovery and emphasis on the good news of response. Downey: From your tradition, Justin Bishop Fitzsimmons-Allison has this great line where he's thinking primarily of liberal version of Pelagianism which is a happy, cheerful view of human beings. But you see why it's there fully here in Genesis 3.Downey: Showing the good intention behind this over correction.

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