The Relationship Between Loyalty and Self-Reliance

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I think we both really related on the care for our families. Like growing up, like your parents found a lot of meaning and joy in seeing you have fun. Whereas my parents wanted me to have happiness and joy, but it was so rooted in this family web. So it hasn't been a light, easy path of my parents at all. I love America. Absolutely. It was in East meets West conflict. But they may be wiser than you on that. Maybe they actually, if you even could explain that to them. And what would happen? That in itself. Yeah.

Today, we’re sharing an episode of Where Should We Begin?, a Vox Media podcast hosted by the iconic psychotherapist Esther Perel. Listen in as real people in search of insight bare the raw, intimate, and profound details of their stories.

In this episode, a Where Should We Begin first, Esther sits down with two friends. They’ve been close for so long they feel like brothers, with all of the baggage that comes with family but none of the certainty. There are things that go unspoken between them, issues they have skimmed over in their two decades of friendship. Esther creates the space for the conversation they didn't know quite where to begin. This session was recorded in collaboration with NPR's Invisibilia and a sibling episode with Esther can be heard on their podcast.

Kara & Nayeema will be back Thursday with a fresh episode of ON.

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