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#492: Richard Schwartz — IFS, Psychedelic Experiences Without Drugs, and Finding Inner Peace for Our Many Parts

The Tim Ferriss Show

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I Had a Lot of Anger and Rage Come Up, but the Way in Which It Came to the Surface Was Very Surprising

i had a lot of anger and rage come up, but the way in which it came was very surprising to me. And i don't know if that's because i was genuinely at peace, if there was some type of shock, i couldn't tell you. I typically run pretty hot, in the sense that i like travelling in sixth year and doing a lot. So having that much time to ruminate or to experience consciousness uncluttered by activity may have been harder on me than filling my calendar. It wasn't specific to any of the abuse. It was in just dozens of kind of trite or inconsequential slights from my past. The pod cast really hit escape velocity

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Richard Schwartz — IFS, Psychedelic Experiences Without Drugs, and Finding Inner Peace for Our Many Parts | Brought to you by Helix Sleep premium mattresses, LinkedIn Jobs recruitment platform with 700M+ users, and Athletic Greens all-in-one nutritional supplement. More on all three below.

Richard Schwartz is on the faculty of the department of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School.

He began his career as a family therapist and an academic at the University of Illinois at Chicago, where he discovered that family therapy alone did not achieve full symptom relief. In asking patients why, he learned that they were plagued by what they called “parts.” These patients became his teachers as they described how their parts formed networks of inner relationships that resembled the families he had been working with. He also found that as they focused on and, thereby, separated from their parts, they would shift into a state characterized by qualities like curiosity, calm, confidence, and compassion. He called that inner essence the Self and was amazed to find it even in severely diagnosed and traumatized patients. From these explorations, the Internal Family Systems (IFS) model was born in the early 1980s.

IFS is now evidence-based and has become a widely-used form of psychotherapy, particularly with trauma. It provides a non-pathologizing, optimistic, and empowering perspective and a practical and effective set of techniques for working with individuals, couples, families, and—more recently—corporations and classrooms.

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Disclaimer from Richard Schwartz: There is an on-going debate in the culture regarding the validity of recovered memories. While there is considerable evidence that recovered memories of abuse can be real, in some cases they are not. If such memories come to you, it is important to not act on them without corroborating evidence.

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