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Chatter: Covering the Justice Department During and After Trump, with Katie Benner

The Lawfare Podcast

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The Importance of Self Justification in Court

"If you go into court and you make a lot of your base happy, but then you get your ass kicked in court," he says. "I wonder if the, I wonder if that is not true when we all paid homage to norms." He adds: "How do you do that without being overly careful?"

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