Speaker 1
Hi, I'm Wendy Zuckerman, and you're listening to Science Versus from Gimlet. And a quick warning before we get started. In this episode, we'll be discussing homicide and sexual violence. So please take care when you're listening to the show. And if you're feeling depressed or you just want to talk to someone in the US, you can call the National Mental Health Helpline, which is at 1-800 So that's 1-800 We'll pop it in the show notes. Okay, let's jump in. This is the show that pits facts against foul play. On today's show, serial killers. One murderer who embodies a lot of our fears about serial killers is a guy named Ed Kemper, who killed his victims in the 60s and 70s. Can you tell us about Ed Kemper?
Speaker 2
Oh, yes. Oh, yes. I can tell you about Ed Kemper. And by the way, you would like Ed, and he would like you. Because
Speaker 2
Yes, and he would probably kill you. The
Speaker 1
guy telling us about Ed Kemper is a researcher called Eric Hickey. He's a criminal psychologist at Walden University and knows a lot about serial killers. And he told us that Ed started killing early, when he was only 15. He
Speaker 2
said, one day I just came down for breakfast. I just thought, what would it be like to shoot grandma and kill her? So he walked up behind her with a rifle and shot and killed her.