#61: Trail Running Wisdom, With Trail Runner Nation Scott & Don
The Extramilest Podcast
The Motivation Comes and Goes
"The motivation comes and goes. It really goes in waves, but it's sometimes like the habits or the systems that you can set up that you can do day in, day out without even having to think about it too," he said. "It almost became a non-negotiable ... I've noticed that that strengthens my calves, my Achilles."
A conversation with my friends Scott Warr and Don Freeman, hosts of the Trail Runner Nation podcast. TRN is trail running's #1 podcast in the world, with more than 600 episodes recorded.
We break down the barriers for road runners to get into trail running and advice on how to improve as a trail runner and ultra runner.
Watch the full YouTube interview at: https://youtu.be/2k9O2DF5c4Y
CHAPTERS
- 00:00 Intros
- 3:56 Welcome Scott and Don! About Trail Runner Nation.
- 8:22 Starting out running, transition to trail
- 14:42 Early lessons in trail running
- 21:39 Why people run mostly road vs trails
- 23:12 Community
- 29:02 Kids ‘n’ trails, “one is greater than none”
- 30:11 Running gear & safety considerations
- 34:18 Things you can’t run without…
- 39:32 Running identity
- 45:17 Small habits, motivation
- 47:07 Common lessons from podcast guests
- 52:40 Recommendations to get into trail running
- 58:40 Don’s 200-mile races
- 1:06:35 Crewing for trail / ultra races
- 1:08:48 Where to find Don and Scott
- 1:09:30 Closing thoughts
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Scott Warr and Don Freeman are experienced non-elite trail runners, located in Northern California. Trail Runner Nation is one of trail running’s oldest and most downloaded podcasts. I love the TRN podcast and have been listening to them for 10+ years. This is how I initially discovered Dr Phil Maffetone, Dr Mark Cucuzzella and several others.
This conversation was a blast to record because Scott and Don have stories for days from their trail and ultra adventures.
FIND OUT MORE ABOUT DON, SCOTT AND TRAIL RUNNER NATION:
- Website - https://trailrunnernation.com/
- Twitter - https://twitter.com/WeAreNation
- Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/trailrunnernation/
- Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/TrailRunnerNation/
- All TRN episodes - https://trailrunnernation.com/category/podcasts/
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LINKS AND TOOLS MENTIONED:
- Trail Runner Nation https://trailrunnernation.com/
- Born to Run (book) by Christopher McDougall https://amzn.to/3ZTHWdF
- Extramilest Show #59 - Coach Jimmy Dean http://bit.ly/42cuVxn
- Atomic Habits (book) by James Clear https://amzn.to/3ZOeUw2
- Vibram 5 Fingers https://amzn.to/3FtpAYL
- Tahoe 200 http://bit.ly/3LqjgFo
- Bigfoot 200 http://bit.ly/3Tj1W74
- Cocadona 250 https://cocodona.com/
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