There's actually a lot of different routes to like you know being successful for whatever your measure of that is but yeah the YC environment there's so many good things that came out of it. Paul Graham was like you guys shouldn't try to raise any more money when we started running into traction problems and he said maybe you should work on product market fit. We were never anywhere near the top of that list but it wasn't demotivated like there's never a point where I was like oh we're not near It was just like oh we need to get better right?