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Episode 479: Heather Havrilesky

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How Do You Climb Out of That Bitch Moment?

Soso: "You have to be prepared to go straight into the middle of something that you don't necessarily naturally love or even support exactly, or are in control of" She says it's not fair for other women with careers who need some one with a little bit of a voice and power to defend them. But also the way the culture works, 'it's like you've got to go out there looking like a damned celebrity just to defend yourself', she adds. Soso is published by Simon & Schuster at £16.99.

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