So do i think that, you know, a narcisistic trait are much higher than is native to the human condition. Under different developmental environments, and particular, tribal, k, tribal environment, you're just not going to get away with lying very well, ghatis, just too much surveilane, yu're not going to get away with hurting people in a small environment where everybody knows what's happening with everybody. You're not going to be able to hide the effects of things, right? Tae, increased transparency. But as soon as the system gets large enough that you can hide the effects, then you start having an evolutionary niche for those kinds of parasitic and predatory behaviors.

It gets right back to the ashologenesis. Ah, the same exact thing that now it becomes not just ok, but there is a niche where it flourishes. And it may not, it may not actually be directly incentivized, but it certainly isn't disincentivized. And actually there are, like you said, selection factors that actually enrich it that population. Andand then, and then. So this is ntreally because the idea that this exists now at a higher level, say, than in tribal times. Means that this is not something you reduce to genetics. It's not something you reduce to dna. It's a complex biopsycho social process that's an interplay between us, our environment, our genes, our hardware or software, and everything else. Ye, let's

say we're looking at them geans and some particular psychiatric condition or nerological condition. It's like, does everyone with apo e four get all simers? No. Are there some people who have all simers that don't have apoefor? Yes. So that's like part of that's one type of causal dynamic. It is not a one for one causation. Typically in biological situations, it's not. It's not simple as one cause, right? It's a lot of things that collectively can reach a threshold and you have nexs causation. So are there gens that predispose certain kinds of things, but there's a lot of other attenuating factors in whatever. Totally m that's what i think with. I think thatmo, the anxiety, the depression, the narcisism, the am short attention spans, i think those are all conditionable. And i think they're conditionable where, you know, i like look at positive deviants culturally, like where a whole culture for some period of time had one or two standard deviations more of some desirable trait. So i like to look at janes, for non violence, or buddhists, or quakers, or be able to see, can you have a whole population, which means all the geneticmutation within that population and all the kinds of variance, but where the population as a whole, its medium violence is a standard deviation better than everybody else. It is a group dynamic, which means that culture, right, actually was able to wt, factoring jnex whatever, attenuate that lot an same as, like, across very different environments do. Jews usually educate their kids better than a lot of other cultures. Don't reach higher level of education, like, it's very clear there's a cultural effect that does that thing, right? And so then you start to think about, could you have some that had buddhist non violence and jewish education and whatever types of processes, in terms like, could you have a culture that was developing, ah, the, you know, a different set of traits in people that made a different set of civilization possibilities associated with a like, increase posenical possibility? Now, of course, we're also looking at the fact that the technology is developing people itself. As we were saying, just simp the like simply, the infinite scroll, personalized to me type thing is going to have effects on attention span. Its going to have effects. And having an effect on attention span also means it's going to make me more one marsh mallow everywhere, including off line, because i don't have delayed gratification builtin.

And we see that now.

It means democracy will end. Because democracy requires a long enough attention span, a long enough working memory that i can hear someone's perspective here, multiple perspectives, hold them all in working memory, and try to find a proposition that would meet many of their goals, rit like if i really want to be able to do collective intelligence. Well, it requires that, which is why, you know, marshall mc luan showed that, not only did the printing press occur as the written word being accessible to everybody, everybody could get a newspaper, so you didn't need a specialized knowledge class that ad access, and everyone could get text books and read. Not only was the printing press a prerequisite for democracy, but the written word, as the primary type of media was probably required for democracy to work, because it required people to think well enough that they could communicate in writing, in long form, in a way that could then translate the legal code right to really think through things formally and that they were reading, which meant increased attention span of non dominurgic stuff, which also meant enough work memory to hear multiple perspectives to be able to find something in my work come

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