I think this ties together a lot of different themes we've talked about because the thing about conversation and think about building something in real time is that you have to kind of be vulnerable. As a guest, you have to say some things that you haven't really thought through. And that feels very different and more vulnerable and more dangerous than reciting your spiel that you've already practiced. It doesn't mean that they're wrong about it, but just they're not used to getting that question and they don't have a prepared answer. Their spiel is like one level deep, but they're not two levels deep, you know? Yeah, absolutely. That is really interesting. One of