Is Racism the Wrong Response?

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In countries where race has played a central role in shaping of the societies, lots of very valuable and interesting culture has been built. The response when we went with this thing into black communities was rewarding to me. I grew up in africa, so i didn't really have the prience of thinking of the culture around me as unvaluable or something because of the color of the people. But if you did grow up like that, as people in europe and north america often did if they were not white, this is enormously exciting. You can use this to engage children in school and all sorts of things. So there's no guarantee in any of this, but i think it

Kwame Anthony Appiah is a British-Ghanaian philosopher, the Ethicist columnist for the New York Times Magazine, and one of today's deepest thinkers about the nature of identity. His scholarly writing, journalism, and novels help us to envision a world in which our professed categories enrich rather than impoverish—or, in his terms, a world which reveres “universality plus difference.”

In this week’s conversation, Kwame Anthony Appiah and Yascha Mounk discuss neutrality as a liberal ideal, the limits of identity politics, and the merits of race-abolitionism.

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