The way that the administration wants to address poverty is not through a welfare state and social support programmes, but through providing access to opportunities. So can you talk a bit about the access doctrine and then who falls on which side of this digitall divide? And haw, they're supposed to cross it yet he no, its. It's always going to be really important for me to say that these are very real inequalities. There are absolutely have always been people who have not been to get inernet access.

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