Is This Really a Rap Song?

"I was listening to some Kanye West like life of Pablo And I came across Pastor T.L. Barrett and I just wrote to the song" "We tried to chop bits from the Like any bits with space we were trying to piece together But they were just all completely different templates" 'If we want to sort of work in it forever we can,' he says, adding that there's a real rawness to this music.

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In this episode, John is back at Spitfire Audio to catch up with Ben Coyle-Larner, better known as Loyle Carner, along with producers Kwes and Nick Mills, about how they wrote, recorded and produced Loyle’s new album ‘Hugo’.

Reflecting back on their time writing over lockdown, Ben, Kwes and Nick talk us through their extensive process of whittling each track down to the finished article, from the early jam sessions and demos they fell in love with, right through the numerous directions they took each beat.

Along with sharing some of the best examples of collaboration and what it can bring, we’re treated to detailed track breakdowns and thoughts on the most effective approaches to take when balancing the emotions of a beat to the emotions within lyrics.

Listen to find out what dangers come with making things too musical, how AI came to the rescue multiple times, and what the ultimate studio snack is.

Tracks discussed: Hate, Nobody Knows, Plastic

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Listen to ‘Hugo’ here.