In today’s episode, Ryan talks with NBA All-Star, Laker legend and humanitarian Pau Gasol. They discuss everything from Pau's reading habit to his advocacy for female coaches in basketball and more.

1:51 - Intro

6:22 - Being a big reader—and how that was encouraged by Phil Jackson

8:22 - What Pau gets out of fiction

10:32 - Phil Jackson recommendations

11:52 - Stoicism and reading

16:02 - The Meditations and marginalia

18:28 - Why do athletes always like quotes/aphorisms?

21:52 - The importance of reminders

24:42 - The importance of female coaches in basketball, and why discrimination is so harmful, and how hardship makes us stronger

37:25 - COVID-19 economic consequences: how did Pau process his experience with the Trailblazers, and how is that informing his decisions now?

Books mentioned:

• The Shadow of the Wind, by Carlos Ruiz Zafón
• The Shadow of the Sun, by Ryszard Kapuscinski
• Corelli’s Mandolin, by Louis de Bernieres
• The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, by Stieg Larsson
• For Whom the Bell Tolls, by Ernest Hemingway
• Catch-22, by Joseph Heller
• 2666, by Roberto Bolaño

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