When frelan's writing really wasn't enough to support yourself, and so you pivoted again. And i think this is a different experience than what you were referring to about working in the basement for free. Here. You started working with robert rik the former us Labor secretary who had decided to run for governor of massachusetts. Given your sort of bouncing around, shall we say, at the time what him decide you could be an effective press secretary? I think it was largely desperation.