Tyler John: It's actually really interesting because we do see them favoring I think disruptive operations but the thing about doing a disruptive operation is that you know when you deploy a wiper you're inherently sort of showing your access right. Despite them having really prioritized this disruptive mandate they still continue to try to regain access for espionage operations and for continued access these things are just so inherently opposed. Tyler John: The rapid pace of these operations impressive but also the fact that they've figured out a way to live on the edge of networks and continually get back into them despite showing their hand.

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