Do You Think the Turner Book Is More Serious Than Markoff's?

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i don't like its use of brand as the central figure, and i think the focus is kind of blinkered. You really have to look at the long span of the war in asia to make sense of those periods and the historical tasks that these people were imbedded in. Nd ellis d is a perfect example. He's a soldier in this broader war against the communist world,. Part of the one front of that war was the experimentation with these substances. So stuart brand was still a soldier in that way.

Paris Marx is joined by Malcolm Harris to discuss the legacy of Stewart Brand and why the myth we’re often told about him overstates the reality of his impact.

Malcolm Harris is the author of Kids These Days, Shit is Fucked Up and Bullshit, and his forthcoming book Palo Alto. He also writes for New York Magazine. Follow Malcolm on Twitter at @BigMeanInternet.

Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Follow the podcast (@techwontsaveus) and host Paris Marx (@parismarx) on Twitter, and support the show on Patreon.

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Also mentioned in this episode:

Malcolm Harris wrote a critical review of John Markoff’s Whole Earth: The Many Lives of Stewart Brand.
Benjamin Kunkel also wrote a critical review of Whole Earth.
The Stewart Brand documentary We Are As Gods about his quest to bring back wholly mammoths to solve climate change is slowly being rolled out after two years of delay and seeming lack of sales interest.
Brand’s Long Now Foundation is building a 10,000-year clock in Texas that’s funded by Jeff Bezos.
We also mention Fred Turner’s From Counterculture to Cyberculture.

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