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The Complexity of Boundedness and Separation
When Dustin, when Ogden speak about boundedness, separateness, as you were saying, Cooper, they also speak about these anxieties that happen there. And I think that their theory is very strong when we think about it descriptively. It has a descriptive power, and this is why many of Klein's theorizations are very compelling to many psychoanalysts. But when we are not speaking about the experience of an adult, which is full of meaning metaphors and associations, I personally find it hard to believe that their experience, their psychological experience is as developed, as complex as an adult. In this sense, I don't know if we are too rash to think that