The Relationship Between Ken Hanson and Mary Enway

Mary Enway had this interesting what became a pattern, I guess. So rather than just pull him back or sell on the company and whatever, he brings in Ken Hanson. And Ken comes in, but there's an overlap. Like Ken's now the leader, like Mary En lets him lead,. But Mary En's there when Ken needs a backup, when Ken needs advice, When Ken needs perspective, when Ken need prayer, whatever. Then Ken has his tenure and then comes Ken Wesner and Ken Hanson does the same thing.