The Fourth Rightness About Trump

In this episode, Scot and I interview Jon Ward about his book Testimony: Inside the Evangelical Movement that Failed a Generation. Jon is the chief national correspondent at Yahoo! News. 

Jon grew up in evangelical Christian circles and has spent the last two decades covering politics, government, culture, and the nature of power. In this book, Jon explores how the evangelical church lost its witness—and how it can regain it by laying aside grasps for power to serve with Christlike love.