You've talked about how you use lucid dreaming to think, to come up with ideas as a source of creativity. What advice would you give or can you speak to the process of thinking? Of how to think? How to think creatively? Well, I mean sometimes I will think through in a dream and try to interpret that. But I think the key issue that I would tell younger people is to put yourself in the position that what you're trying to create already exists. And then you're explaining like how it works. That's really interesting.

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