Blona: People are no longer being defined as holistically, if you like. They're being delifined entirely by their position on some of these issues. How do you not side as a gern raglryand also, sometimes you you have decide? I didn't want to do it for personal reasons. I hate the noise. And i didn't wantto do it for story telling reasons either. Because when you have the noise, you you lose the newanced human story. So then, well, i want to tell human stories. That's what we found as just kind of extraordinary culture wars were starting for reasons that you would never anticipate. The very first conversation i

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