Welcome to episode eighty-eight of New Creation Conversations. In today’s conversation I’m excited to have a unique conversation about Christian discipleship with Jessie Cruickshank. Jessie holds a Master of Education degree from Harvard in mind, brain, and education. She is an ordained minister and a nationally recognized expert in disciple making and the neuroscience of transformation. She has spent two decades applying neuroeducation research to discipleship, ministry training, experiential education, and organization development. Jessie is respected globally as a leader in missiological thought and as a consultant to churches and denominations. She recently founded an organization dedicated to raising up disciple-makers called [Who]ology. And on top of all that, she is expert mountain climber and applies much of what she has learned on her adventures to her calling to make disciples for Christ.

Our conversation centers around her soon-to-be-released book, Ordinary Discipleship: How God Wires Us for the Adventure of Transformation (published and released on May 9 from NavPress). I got the privilege of reading an advance copy and found my imagination changed not only about how to call people to make disciples but about how disciples are made. It is a very accessible and important book and a fascinating conversation.