The Differences Between Stigmatizing and Reintegrative Shaming | 3min snip from It's Not Just In Your Head

Speaker 2
I think that there's a real difference in being angry at someone's social role, let's say being angry at Musk or his social for all the acquisition of money at other people's expense and for charging for Twitter when he's the richest man in the world, not because of his personal whatever's, but because the social role he plays in our class-divided society is a perverse and destructive role of which he's a symbol. It's nothing personal. Personal attacks are another thing. That's what Trump specializes in when he has an opponent, like calling DeSantis meatball on anti-Italian. That, I think,
Speaker 3
that part
Speaker 2
of the rage that comes out in the United States against individuals in a destructive, shaming way young people commit suicide sometimes by being pushed into shame and degradation is because there is no movement, no healthy place for people to show that our empire is going and the discrepancy between the rich and poor is growing and people have nothing, young people have nothing much to look forward to as our country deteriorates. We don't have a political voice and it all goes into the personal.
Speaker 1
Yeah, and I'd like to jump on that because they mention in this paper two different kinds of shaming, the stigmatizing shaming versus reintegrative shaming. And the point being that the stigmatizing one is focused on that an individual is just evil for doing what they've done, right? Whereas the reintegrative shaming is about the act might have been evil, but it doesn't say the person is forever stained by this thing. And that actually in the experiments that they did, not only see these experiments to some degree limited, but still worth talking about, that when the focus of comments that people were exposed to were weighted towards their reintegrative shaming, they tended to be less of a pile on, right? Because it's that sort of amplifier effect of the group that you're in or with or identify with. So there is obviously a way out of creating an environment which festers as it were. But yeah, Harry and Niko, I don't know, sorry, I interrupted
Speaker 2
that.

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