I am all about getting after it and clipping away. But you can do it and marry it with fulfilment. And to me, that's really the mission that some of us are on. I think recognizing tat thist has been presen presented, potentially as a bit of a false choice. You can have one or the other, but you can't really have both, right? Like that if you're going to choose that big career and that big job and that big title that that you're goin to leave fulfilment to the side. That difference between achievement and fulfilment,. i mean, that's a really deep distinction, absolutely an you knowi i think at some

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