45 / 4.5 with Matt Ingebretson & Raj Desai
Lizzy Cooperman's In Your Hands
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Is It OK to Adjust the 4.5?
"I want to keep the stakes high. That's why originally the phone thing was just, do I lock my phone in a room for 45 hours and monitor it?" she says. "There needs to be something that when I come out, I'm like, okay... And then what's going to happen in that space? No spilling salsa."
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